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garden_hoe21 ([personal profile] garden_hoe21) wrote in [community profile] accessibility_fail2012-01-09 12:25 am
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Deaf dancer auditions for SYTYCD

I thought people here might get a kick out of how Nigel (the white male judge with an English accent) "talks to" the auditioner. (Bonus points for "so inspiring! So brave!")

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[personal profile] nafs 2012-01-09 06:34 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yay. Um, Nigel, you don't talk *to* the interpreter, that's incredibly rude. Although I did like the first judge's comments where she basically (among the "brave" and "inspiring" stuff) told him he needed to learn more and come back.

We had a b-boy with, spina bifida, maybe? - he used elbow crutches and didn't have full control of his legs, definitely couldn't support weight on them - audition for a season of SYTYCD Canada. The judges were definitely interested, (there were a lot of "inspiring" type comments as well, of course) he was a good dancer and they sent him to choreo to see if he could handle other styles, they ultimately didn't think he'd be able to handle partner work.

I never did figure out if I thought that was a fair judgement or not. He never indicated that he'd done any partner work, so that was definitely a strike against him. I find it hard to believe there couldn't be ways to use props and chairs and such that he could have the support to lift a partner within a routine where necessary, on the other hand if he'd never done any of that before, he and/or his partner could get seriously hurt in rehearsals while they were figuring out those adaptations.

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[personal profile] dirty_diana 2012-01-11 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
Luca Patuelli! (Wikipedia says he has Arthrogryposis, a muscle condition.) His performances were great but Tre crying about how inspirational he was? was *terrible*. And the place they chose to cut him was sketchy, to me. It was pretty obvious that they were never truly considering putting him through to ballroom, which made the whole thing feel like a circus act.

And I agree that the choreographers work around people's strengths and weaknesses all the time. But Toronto Week and its equivalents are all about culling the non-conformers.

(I think that's the same year that a girl with epilepsy made herself sick staying up all night during the group round. I wanted to yell at the tv, take care of yourself! But at 20ish and chasing a big break, I probably would have done the same thing.)
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[personal profile] inoru_no_hoshi 2012-01-09 06:41 am (UTC)(link)
Okay so um. First, the judges were amazingly condescending. Amaaaazingly. The first one, the blonde lady? She wasn't so bad. The two guys? I literally felt my mouth drop open as I listened. I may have mouthed a few potent "Fuck you!"s, too.

Second, that's not my style of dance. But he's got astounding talent! You don't usually see someone following the bassline that closely, even a hearing person, so I grinned in delight. So happy he's found something he loves and didn't let not being able to hear stop him! :D (Also, the way he incorporated body language into the whole routine. Lovely!)

Third, I feel so sad that he feels so chuffed over it - and more that I know exactly why he would. Hearing people, sometimes you make me :( :( at you.

Deaf brofist, Jarrell. *brofists*
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[personal profile] ethereon 2012-01-09 08:25 am (UTC)(link)
Shouldn't the subtitles have a capital D on Deaf? Maybe that's not a worldwide convention but when they're talking about "deaf community" in a positive way like that I'd have thought it would be a capital. Then again I probably shouldn't be expecting that much from something like that.
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[personal profile] drdongsmd 2012-01-11 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
From what I know, capital-D Deaf is used when referring to Deaf culture; lowercase d is for the medical term.
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[personal profile] inoru_no_hoshi 2012-01-13 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
And even then it's as much up in the air as any other "personal viewpoint on X disability" thing!
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[personal profile] ethereon 2012-01-17 08:44 am (UTC)(link)
yeah that's about how I understood it
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[personal profile] malnpudl 2012-01-09 10:48 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, Nigel. You fail so hard. /o\
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[personal profile] amadi 2012-01-10 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
Truly, Nigel fails so hard, so often in so many vastly different ways, I don't know how he's ever succeeded at anything. I had to stop following him on Twitter because he was being so ugly and nasty to fans who were expressing fannish opinions, not even criticisms, of the last season of SYTYCD, that it was impossible to continue to watch.
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[personal profile] codeman38 2012-01-09 05:15 pm (UTC)(link)
...Ironically, the very thing you're commenting on is inaccessible to deaf folks, since the video isn't captioned, and they keep cutting away from both Nigel (for lip-reading) and the sign interpreter (for ASL). (And as usual, YouTube's auto-captions are less than helpful.)
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[personal profile] inoru_no_hoshi 2012-01-09 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh, I don't even know where to click for YT's auto-captions. I just muddled through by having all the volume controls maxed - but I'm pretty much atypical deaf person. :P

But yes, ITA. A transcript at least would be A+.
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[personal profile] drdongsmd 2012-01-11 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll try and transcribe it tonight. What kinda text upload place do y'all prefer?
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[personal profile] drdongsmd 2012-01-13 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
Bad news: I can't make heads or tails of it because I have swimmer's ear and my 25 decibel hearing loss isn't helping. Good news is that uh... well, I'm not dying from swimmer's ear and I have my prescription now?
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[personal profile] inoru_no_hoshi 2012-01-13 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL! Well, thank you for the offer anyway! (I saw the other comment first, whoops.)

Also glad you're not dying. It's good to not die, if you can at all manage it. *snerk*
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[personal profile] inoru_no_hoshi 2012-01-13 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Hm. Here in a comment is fine, if doable - I'm sure there's other people in the comm who would benefit from it, be they deaf/HoH or have auditory processing problems. :)

Or you could make a post with the transcript under a cut on [community profile] transcripts and link back to this post. :)

TY!

[personal profile] treeowl 2012-01-14 07:54 am (UTC)(link)
YouTube auto-captions are mostly good for their humor value. This video, auto-captioned, begins:

finals limits developments and was hoping that his dancing with speaks for itself
defeated us nobody seemed to have time
and twenty five years old
and from one leg
teledyne
and i looked at
board
actually i was born here and and i became doubt watched
month-long allison and and and
monotonous and tried to explain to me
that insist disappeared
Edited 2012-01-14 07:56 (UTC)

Draft transcript

[personal profile] treeowl 2012-01-14 07:37 am (UTC)(link)
Transcription note: The following is somewhat incomplete, because I'm not sure exactly how many narrators there are, or who they are. Also, I'm no good at all at visual descriptions, so if someone wants to fill that gap, they are more than welcome to. I will use square brackets to indicate Jarrell's ASL signing, pretty much as indicated in the subtitles and/or interpreter's voicing. Note: during the dance scene, the three judges are sitting at a table, and I will describe them as "left judge", "middle judge", and "right judge". If someone knows their names, I will be happy to fill in the blanks.

Disembodied voice: Final soloist, Jarrell Robinson was hoping that his dancing would speak for itself. To speak with us, he'll be using an interpreter.

Jarrell: [I'm 25 years old, and I'm from Glenwood, Illinois, and I am deaf.]

Interviewer: Were you born deaf?

Jarrell: [I was born hearing, and became deaf.]
Interviewer: Why?

Transcriber's note: I seriously doubt the following interpretation is anything like a literal translation, but my ASL isn't nearly good enough to be sure, let alone to do better.
Jarrell: [Well, I was an infant and my mom has tried to explain to me that it just disappeared.]

Jarrell: [I started dancing to feel like I can feel music. I want to feel what music tastes like. Really the only way that I can hear the music is if you really turn up and turn the bass on. And you just dance with it, you follow the rhythm. I'm doing this for all the Deaf community. I want them all to know that deaf people can do anything. What thy really want if you put it in your mind, you can do anything, as long as you stay positive, and that's why I'm here, and it's amazing. ]

[ILY between Jarrell and interviewer]

Interviewer: You are so cool; so cool.

Right judge: Cue music!

{music starts; Jarrell starts dancing. Transcriber doesn't want to attempt to figure out the lyrics}

Left judge: How great is that?

Left judge grimaces.

Right judge: {holds up hand to stop} Thank you.

If you just come here then; he can keep his eye on you as I'm speaking.

Middle judge: Jarrell, extremely musical for someone that can't hear the music. I think because you can't hear the music, you have found a way to really be the music, which is outstanding. That being said, the vocabulary of your steps is just not strong enough, today, but I encourage you to continue training, inspiring, and being the brave person that you are for dealing with this, and overcoming it in so many ways.

Left judge: First and foremost, you are an incredibly special, inspiring, and deeply talented man, and I can't tell you how much I appreciate that. And I'll tell you what I found fascinating: you actually interpreted the song correctly; it was wonderful to watch.

Jarell: [thank you very much]

Right judge: How do you feel the music? Is it through vibrations?

Jarell: [I feel the music through the bass, and if I feel that one bass movement, I know that it's a double step. If it's four or five beats, then I know I have to follow however many progressions it's taken.]

Right judge: So many dancers need to have that ability.

Middle judge laughs.

Left judge: You have that more than most people we see!

Right judge: The world is at his feet, but I don't think the competition today is right for him. BUt there are lots of areas that if he is brave enough to push barriers, he can be exceptionally successful.

Judge: Thank you for wanting(?); thank you.

{applause}

Jarrell: [I feel inspired. I just hope that I learned everything I could remember of what the judges said. I just feel so alive; I feel so a part of this moment right now, I just gotta go.

Middle judge: It's just so inspiring(?)

Left judge: It's just so inspiring.