You Fail At Accessibility

[synecdochic]

Have you ever been in an 'accessible' hotel room that had an half-inch-high curb at the threshhold? Ever been caught in a 22" wide wheelchair facing down a 20" door? Ever been assured that the allegedly-accessible route has 'just' one step?

Take a picture. Then post it to the community, with where you were, what you noticed, and why that place fails at accessibility. (Filing ADA violation reports can be a community bonding activity!)

Pictures aren't necessary, and whether or not you have a picture, describe the situation as completely as you can. (That way those with visual-based disabilities can share in the mocking of the fail as well.) And if you come across someplace that does it right, please also feel free to post accessibility wins.

(All kinds of accessibility fail welcome: mobility-based, visual-based, physical-world, online-world, anything at all.)

Comments

[aedifica]

I'll make this a comment rather than a post because it's something I haven't witnessed myself, but there's always the classic sign: "Illiterate? Write today for free help!"

[norabombay]

Does size count? For the purpose of the community? I'm thinking of the things I run into where everyday stuff is not made to cope with the size and weight of me and a goodly percentage of the population.

Desk chairs at DePaul University, I'm looking at you- it was a serious fat fail.

[beatrice_otter]

I have no accessability issues myself, and am generally fairly oblivious to my physical surroundings (as in, regularly walking into doors and corners) so there's lots of stuff I just don't notice, but some are so blatant even I notice them. Such as the ABC Brewery Pub in Gettysburg, PA on Rt. 30 adjacent to Seminary Ridge, in which the "handicap accessible" bathrooms are located in the basement. In a restaurant which has no elevator.

[druidspell]

I've got one.
University of Kentucky, Slone Building.
Has:
-no automatic doors or door-opening buttons at the entrance or exit so that if, for instance, you are like my friend H. and are wheelchair-bound with cerebral palsy, you cannot open the door to enter or exit the building without someone else's assistance.
-an elevator accessible only at the back of the building, which must be reached either a) by walking around the exterior to the rear of the building, climbing a small flight of stairs, and opening a non-automatic door, or b) using the front non-automatic door and proceeding the 50 yards to the rear of the building (through another set of non-automatic doors) to reach the service elevator.
-all of the classrooms located on the second and third floors, accessible either by stairs or inconvenient elevator

I first noticed this in November of 2007, when I had broken my leg and was crutching around campus. I discovered through painful experience that managing crutches, a full backpack, the doors, stairs, elevator, AND not putting any weight on the broken leg was a task best suited to someone with more resources than I had; e.g. someone with four arms instead of the standard two, or possibly telekinesis.

[starwatcher]

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1. Something I've noticed so many times - the automatic door-closers on public bathrooms that are so tight that it takes a strong effort from me to enter and exit. It must be hell for people in a wheelchair, or using a walker or crutches -- or just kind of old and weak, dammit!

2. This happened years ago. Upgraded bathrooms at the local county fairgrounds, nicely handicapped-accessible - with a honkin' big trashcan placed to block wheelchair access to the entry. (Walking in was no problem.) I went to the fair office to point it out; they sort of blanched and one woman immediately got up to rectify the situation. But... why did they have to be told?
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[xenakis]

As an architectural intern, I have to deal with issues of accessibility and universal design all the time. That means to be concerned not only with the minimum dimensions required by the building code (yeah, how'd you guys like them 1:12 ramps? pff!) but to think about the wider issues of common entrances/ease of location/legibility of signage etc. It's pretty hard and frustrating sometimes, but I try to see the ADA regulations as opportunities for innovative design. One pretty wicked example of this is the stair/ramp designed by Arthur Erikson in Robson Square, Vancouver: http://www.greatbuildings.com/cgi-bin/gbi.cgi/Robson_Square.html/cid_1820069.html

And yeah, I know this isn't an example of fail... I'll tell you all about the Montreal Metro system another time, to make up for it ;)

[trouble]

It's amazing to me how often I tell people I'm looking for an accessible vegetarian restaurant, and when I point out their suggestion has steps, they say "But just one!"

That's all it takes.

[alexseanchai]

The honors dorm at IUP. Getting in the front door involved going up a couple dozen stairs. Back door was level with the ground outside the building but getting from the door to either the basement or the first floor required stairs. Side door #1 was level with both the ground and the first floor, but students didn't get to use it unless the fire alarm was going off. Same deal with side door #2 except I think that one actually had a ramp. I'm not even sure either of those opened from outside.

[2naonh3_cl2]

Firstly: *applauds* I am not handicapped, but I work with the disabled, and seriously, "handicapped accessible" is sometimes such a load of crap. I weigh about 110, and trying to get a wheelchair bound person up the "tiny, little, bump" sometimes requires more than me.

Secondly: NYC subway stations. Handicapped accessible? It's a fifty-fifty toss up. They will tell you on the MTA website if that particular station is accessible, but certain parts of the lines do fail. As well as maneuvering yourself, once you get into the station, WTF.

http://www.mta.info/mta/ada/stations.htm#manhattan

BritRail

[adina]

Accessibility fail? British railways. The train platforms are not standard to the train heights, so there's often a height difference up to 5 inches. I mentioned this to my brother, a naturalized British citizen, as an example of how Britain is at least twenty years behind the U.S. in handicapped accessibility (and the U.S. isn't great, as this community proves) and he said that it wasn't an issue because they will bring a ramp if requested. So I checked--yes, they will bring a ramp if requested 48 hours in advance. Yeah, that solves that issue. Not.

[killing_rose]

I recall on my first day of freshman year checking my dorm at the time for accessibility. (I'm able-bodied, but it's something I try to remember given that I have friends who use wheelchairs that I'd like to be able to visit me.) At the time, given that the building had an elevator, I thought that at least the college was trying. Yes, it had one elevator and one accessible bathroom. That was in the basement. But the elevator only went to the third floor and not the fourth and was very rarely able to be accessed unless you got the key from the custodian *and* security *and* campus life.

Other dorms on our campus? Out of twenty-five dorms, ranging from freshman housing to the co-ops favored by seniors? Six of them have an elevator of some form (which is the only thing that anyone on campus actually pays attention to when it comes to "accessibility"), about eight have one or more bathrooms that a larger stall with grab bars, and all of seven or so have a larger shower. And maybe five have either a ramp or an entrance that has no steps whatsoever.

Do not get me started on the classroom buildings because in many instances they fail even worse. (Our library was built in the sixties. It has an elevator. Located in the basement and not available to the public unless you go to the checkout desk, which is located up one flight of stairs.)

Feminist *and* accessibility fail

[vass]

The 24-hour computer lab at the University of Melbourne has two toilets. One is for able-bodied men. The other is for everyone else.

Tagging admin

[cesy]

Can tags be added for workplace and win, please? It would be good to label the entry about the good example, so that such things can be found easily.

Also, is it worth tagging my entry as UK? Most of the stuff is similar (DDA is fairly similar to ADA, from what I know), but some details may differ between countries. Is this community meant to be US-centric, or just accessibility worldwide?

[roaringmice]

I think my favorite "in-access" thing is at my work, and I like it because it's kind of subtle. Unless you actually use that bathroom, rather than look at it, you might not notice the problem.

The placement of the hand rail on the wall - which is correct - means they put the toilet paper holder on the wall below the bar. Which might be fine if the holder weren't so huge, and didn't open at the bottom.

In order to get a piece of toilet paper, a person sitting on the toilet must bend and stretch all the way forward and reach to the floor to get it. I am a former gymnast, and thus bendy, and even I have trouble reaching a sheet of toilet paper. For someone who can not do that bending, I have no idea how they're supposed to get at the paper.

So, you can use the bathroom just fine, but wiping yourself? You're out of luck.

[anotherdream]

How do you feel about people with size problems in this comm? I'm not disabled, but I am quite short, only four feet eleven inches. You know, shorter than a middle schooler. Many things that wheelchair-bound people have problems with, so do I - I can't reach things, furniture and kitchens and bathrooms are difficult, my most important piece of furniture is a small stepladder (without which I cannot even reach most of my cupboards).