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Sister to the Pleiades; smallest star in the sky ([personal profile] mathsnerd) wrote in [community profile] accessibility_fail2010-09-17 04:47 pm

FUCK YOU, GOOGLE!

So I am wishful of obtaining a second Gmail account, since my mail email is used for communicating with family, and for a myriad of reasons, I am forced to be permanently invisible on chat, and that makes me sad. Also, I'd like an email address that doesn't use my legal name in the handle for my internet stuff. So, I go to the sign-up page and try my usual options (mathsnerd, mathsie), only to find that they're both taken. Okay, no problem. I start trying logical workarounds to see which ones are available.

Oh, wait, what's that, Google? After trying more than three names, I have to go through CAPTCHA to prove I'm a real person? Okay, that's kind of soon, but whatever. Gee, you sure scrunch those letters together and make them all wavy so that I have a real hard time figuring out what the hell you want me to enter...

Huh, okay, I've tried eight times, Google, and I can't seem to read it well enough that you're satisfied that I'm a real person. And while you offer a "read-aloud" accessibility option for the CAPTCHA down below for submitting the form (which, incidentally, doesn't work in Chrome, yeah, you know, YOUR BROWSER!), for the CAPTCHA to keep trying different handles you conveniently don't offer any alternate options.

So, in conclusion, FUCK YOU, GOOGLE, AND FUCK YOUR UTTER LACK OF ACCESSIBILITY ON THIS PAGE. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Right now you're not living up to your usual standards. And I'm seriously wondering why I bother with Gmail accounts.

No love and a fuck-load of frustration,
[personal profile] mathsnerd
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[personal profile] amadi 2010-09-17 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, GMail is where I once encountered this CAPTCHA image after my fourth attempt to remember a forgotten password:

A jumble of letters in a red script that is completely unreadable.

I understand why they do what they can to keep GMail secure from fake accounts, but they are really lacking in options for accessibility.
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[personal profile] codeman38 2010-09-17 03:26 pm (UTC)(link)
For what it's worth, when the audio option does work, you can't hear the digits above the background noise of gibberish speech in the same pitched voice.

I say this from experience. -_-;;
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[personal profile] trouble 2010-09-17 03:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, lobbying Google about this issue isn't a bad idea at all. I wonder if this is something we should do.
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[personal profile] trouble 2010-09-17 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, actually showing up at Google headquarters is not really viable for me, either. But yes, something online could be good.

*ponders more*
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[personal profile] willow 2010-09-17 04:47 pm (UTC)(link)
It wasn't just me?? I thought something was wrong with my speakers or something that I couldn't make anything out- I was so frustrated and near tears I just gave up. Luckily by the next day I remembered the password.

[personal profile] techstep 2010-09-17 05:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm a able-bodied friend of [personal profile] mathsnerd's, and I was just discussing this with her and she asked me to post here.

My hearing is generally pretty good -- I'm a veteran shortwave radio listener, spent a lot of time listening to noisy experimental music, and can otherwise do a decent job of extracting signals from noisy audio -- but the audio version of Google CAPTCHA is nothing short of awful. I listened to a clip several times while trying to create an account, and couldn't figure out, for the life of me, what the hell was going on.

I understand that voice recognition technology for discrete letters and numbers has become pretty decent. And I understand they need to develop anti-spam techniques. But if Google's "accessible" CAPTCHA is failing for amateur audio engineers, then they're just using "accessible" as a marketing label.
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[personal profile] codeman38 2010-09-17 06:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow. Sometimes I wish DW had a "like" feature on comments, because I would totally be clicking it here.

Seriously, though. If you're going to have gibberish speech in the background to throw off speech recognition systems, is it that hard to choose samples that don't also sound like numbers?
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[personal profile] trouble 2010-09-18 01:21 pm (UTC)(link)
May I quote parts of this?

[personal profile] techstep 2010-09-18 01:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Of course!
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[personal profile] codeman38 2010-09-17 03:27 pm (UTC)(link)
...oh yeah, and the gibberish quite often sounds vaguely like numbers. So I can't tell if the "two" I heard was actually a "two" or part of the background noise. >_<;;
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[personal profile] codeman38 2010-09-17 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously, you'd think they might have done just a bit of usability testing on this... both the visual and audio versions.

Heck, someone else did a survey showing that the audio CAPTCHA is made of fail, but it's not as if Google will listen...
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[personal profile] trouble 2010-09-18 01:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, can I use this screengrab in a post?
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[personal profile] amadi 2010-09-19 12:13 pm (UTC)(link)
If you can snag it and upload it to your own server, knock yourself out!